What Happens When Cars Sit?

Jordan Lewis

We rely heavily on data and logic at Hagerty Insider, but if there’s ever a situation where logic goes out the window, it’s when we see a never-driven, delivery-mile example of a 30- or 40-year-old car sell for beyond top dollar. For example, a Honda S2000 CR with 123 miles sold in 2022 for $205,000, double the Hagerty Price Guide‘s #1 condition (“concours” or “best in the world”) value at the time and the first S2000 to crack $200K. Further down the price ladder but no less surprising, a 445-mile Nissan Sentra SE-R sold for $33,500, or nearly three times the previous record for the model. It’s always a bit shocking when sales like these happen, yet huge prices for ultra-low-mile cars have become a regular occurrence.

The trouble is that automobiles, like everything else, are subject to the law of entropy. “Preservation” is about more than just keeping the odometer reading low. “Like-new” means something different after one, two, or three decades, even if the car still has plastic wrap on the steering wheel. The paint, upholstery, and trim may look flawless—but what about the bits you can’t see, like the complex systems and different materials that make up the driveline? Just because a car is like-new doesn’t mean it actually is new, or that you can just hop in and drive it home. We decided to call up some experts across the industry to answer a big question: What exactly is happening to a car when it sits?

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The Henry Ford Museum/Wes Duenkel

First off, what’s happening to it while it sits depends on where it sits. Imagine a car in a museum—perhaps the Le Mans–winning Ford Mark IV at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Michigan. Now, think of that old pickup you once saw sitting in a field. Technically, they’re both decaying. One is just decaying far more slowly than the other. 

The race car lives in a perfectly curated world. The temperature in the museum is consistent and the humidity is just so: Low enough to deter moisture-loving insects and mold, high enough to prevent the tires and other rubber seals from drying out. A museum car’s tires may barely touch the ground, because the chassis sits on jack stands. The fluids in the car—fuel, coolant, oil—have either been drained or supplemented with stabilizing agents. The upholstery is regularly vacuumed to eliminate pests. Dust barely gathers on the body before someone gently sweeps it off.

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The wheel of The Henry Ford’s 1967 Ford Mark IV race car, with its original tire.The Henry Ford Museum

The pickup, meanwhile, has been at the mercy of the weather for who knows how long. The tires have cracked and rotted. Salty air might be corroding metal. Insects and/or rodents might be living inside the cabin and engine bay. The engine’s cylinders may be dry, the gas in its rusty fuel tank a kind of goo, the oil gray instead of honey-colored. Its paint may be bubbling, its carpets mildewing. 

Those are two extreme examples, of course, but when it comes to the condition of a car, the storage (or display) environment makes all the difference, whether the car is Henry Ford’s original Quadricycle from 1896 or a brain scientist’s sporty Sentra from 1992. To keep a “like-new” car living up to its descriptor, the temperature must be consistent; otherwise, even the most immaculate car will bake, sweat, and/or freeze. The moisture in the air needs to be high enough to slow the decay of organic materials like tires but low enough to protect from rust. The room itself needs to be well-sealed to deter pests. The vehicle also needs a barrier (or two) between the paint and the dust, dirt, and grime that will accumulate. And that’s only the parts of the car you can see …

The Odometer Doesn’t Tell the Whole Story

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Tom’s 16,000-mile Porsche, where he found it.Youtube / Hagerty

No one is more familiar with finding automotive diamonds in rough storage situations than Tom Cotter, known around these parts as The Barn Find Hunter. When we called him to discuss this story, the consequences of bad storage were especially fresh on his mind: He had just bought a barn-find car (a 1986 Porsche 930 Turbo) with 16,000 miles. “That’s the good news,” he said. “The bad news is that it has not been driven since 1996, so nearly 30 years. And even though it had a plastic sheet on it, somehow it got filthy. Filthy. My heart breaks.” Even worse, the windows were open, and the car was infested with mice. It needs a thorough recommissioning: brakes, gas tank, fuel lines, fuel injection unit, fuel injector, fuel pump—and those are just the major areas, says Tom. He’s still in the process of figuring out how much the car needs, but if everything needs to be replaced, the work could cost as much as $40,000. Oh, and he’ll need a new set of tires—the car was parked on its original set from 1986. 

Barn Find Hunter Episode 172 Porsche 930 911 Turbo covered in dust in barn
Jordan Lewis

“Just because a car has low miles doesn’t mean it was well cared for,” says Cotter. “Cars go bad when they sit.” A perfect storage environment and a sedentary life don’t guarantee stasis, either: “There are things that happen inside the systems of a car that break down, like the rubber in a brake system or the rubber in our fuel system. It doesn’t matter if the car is hot or cold or clean or dirty, those things are going to break down.” One interesting system that is especially prone to degrading when a car sits is the exhaust, he says. “For every gallon of fuel that’s burned in a car, a gallon of water comes out the tailpipe. It’s just part of the combustion process. And so if you run the car and then turn it off and park it for 20 years, you’ve got at least a gallon of water sitting in the exhaust system—most of it, in the muffler. Unless it’s made of stainless steel or something, it’s going to just rot right out. There’s really nothing you can do about that.” 

The fluids and the metals in a car are often conspiring against each other. “One of the biggest challenges you have managing large collections—and with cars that sit, too—is coolant system corrosion,” says Scott George, curator of collections at the Revs Institute in Naples, Florida, who knows a thing or two about keeping old cars in peak health. “You’ve got brass, copper, aluminum, iron, steel, all coming in contact with water, and it can create a battery of sorts. It can almost create its own internal energy, which can attack certain metals that are most vulnerable,” like the vanes in a water pump, which are often made of a different metal than the pump itself. Using antifreeze doesn’t eliminate the problem: Those systems can corrode, too, damaging hose connections and water chambers in cylinder heads. “Corrosion in radiators, and things that attack solder and solder seams, are also a big challenge for anybody with large collections.”

Triumph TR5T gas tank paint
Kyle Smith

Proper storage requires understanding of the car’s construction, because certain materials require special attention and/or precautions. Wool and horsehair, materials that are especially common in the upholstery of cars built before World War II, can attract cloth moths and carpet beetles. Cuong Nguyen, a senior conservator at The Henry Ford, who is heavily involved in the care of the museum’s 300-car collection, suggests vacuuming such cars each season. He also warns that some more modern wiring harnesses are made with soy-based materials that, while eco-friendly, attract mice. Sticky traps, he says, especially those without pheromones, can be good preventive measures for furry pests. 

Understanding how a car is built also helps set expectations for how it ages, even in the best conditions. For instance, different sorts of paints wear differently: Lacquer-based paint, used on most cars built before the late 1980s or early ‘90s, doesn’t hold up as well as the more modern, urethane-based version. Another notoriously finicky modern material covers the soft-touch buttons found in some Italian exotics from the 1990s or early 2000s. The black material gets sticky over time.

Best-Case Storage Scenario

Kyle Smith

Cotter, who owns a storage facility called Auto Barn in North Carolina, encourages enthusiasts to store their vehicles thoughtfully because they’re protecting their financial investment. “It might take you a half-day to get a car ready to lock up, but put a little bit of effort into it. You are maintaining your investment. It’s a mechanical portfolio. A car that’s parked haphazardly will more than likely go down in value.”

The best place to store a car—with any odometer reading—is in a clean, dry place with temperature and humidity control. To avoid flat spots on the tires, which can develop within a year, the car should be elevated, just slightly, on jack stands (as mentioned above, a trick used by museums) or lowered onto a set of tire cradles. If the fuel isn’t drained, it should be ethanol-free; the regular stuff turns into a gummy, gooey mess when it sits. If the fuel in the tank does contain ethanol, it should be supplemented with a fuel stabilizer. If the car was driven regularly before storage, the carpets in the driver’s side footwell should either be completely dry or propped up, away from the floorboards. Cotter explains why: moisture from the driver’s shoes may get onto and under the carpets, and it may mold the carpets or, worse, become trapped between the rubber backing and the sheetmetal underneath, which may begin to rust.

Some sort of rodent protection, even a Bounce sheet, should be taken. (This nifty device, called Mouse Blocker, uses sonic pulses to keep the critters at bay.) One moisture-absorbing trick that Cotter recommends is cheap, and readily found at your local hardware store: charcoal, which absorbs moisture and odors. Ideally, the paint should be waxed and the car put under a cover. Feeling fancy? Look into a Car Capsule, the “bubbles” that the Detroit Historical Society uses to store its cars.

detroit historical society storage bubble car capsule
YouTube / Hagerty

While in Storage

Of course, not all low-mile cars are barn finds like Tom’s Porsche. Many of them present amazingly well. Scott George weighs in. There’s an excitement, he says, about buying a car that appears locked in time and cosmetically perfect—free of nicks, scrapes, bumps, wrinkles. But some people, he says, may not think about what they’re getting into at a mechanical level: “Every time I see a later-model car sell with low mileage, what often goes through my mind is ‘cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching.'” He’s seen what can happen when cars sit for 25 or 30 years: “Everything functioning part of the automobile, maybe except for a total engine rebuild, has to be redone.”

Not all buyers may want to drive their pristine, low-mile prize, he admits—some may simply want to be the next owner, to park the car in their climate-controlled showroom as a trophy. There is nothing wrong with that, of course, but down the road, it may be a very costly one—if not for them, for the next person who buys it and wants to drive it. “Cars are operating machines,” George says. “They like to drive.”

At the very least, a car should be started once in a while, and run for more than 5 or 10 minutes—half an hour or so, at least, so that the engine and oil can come up to temperature and cooling fluids can fully circulate. Starting a car and quickly turning it off, says Cotter, “does more damage than if you just leave it alone because the cylinders are dry—there’s not enough oil in the system.”

Acids and moisture can build up, warns George, if a car doesn’t run long enough, “and exhaust systems can corrode from the inside out, and so forth.” He practices what he preaches: The Revs Institute has an unusually high commitment to keeping most of its 120-something collection running, and that means driving the cars—on a 40-, 50-, or 60-mile loop, for the road cars, or on track, for the race cars, whether that’s at a historic racing event or during a test day where Revs rents out a facility.

Where a car is stored may make the most difference in preserving its condition, but how it is maintained during that period is a close second. “I have witnessed actually cars that 25 or 30 years old that literally sat,” says George, “and I’ve seen it firsthand: every functioning part of the automobile, maybe except for a total engine rebuild, has to be redone. The fuel systems, the fuel injectors, all of that stuff.” Maintaining a low-mile car in driving condition requires a balance of commitment and restraint: “There are some people that have just had these wonderful low-mileage cars,” says George, “and they have done annual maintenance and they have cared for the mechanical systems. They’ve just been cautious about how many mile miles they’ve put on.”

In short, the best way to keep a car in driving condition is to, well, drive it.

Before Buying

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HVA/Preston Rose

An odometer reading, then, provides only a sliver of information. The number it displays may be sensationally low, but, for a buyer, the detective work has only begun. The current owner is likely the best source of information on the condition, storage, and maintenance of the car; if the car has traded hands frequently (normal, for some of the lowest mile examples of a particular model), it’s a good idea to hunt down the person who owned it longest. Looking at the car in person, and on a lift, is always preferable, especially if there’s an expert or specialist around to deliver the hard truths.

If you are frustrated in any of those pursuits, and if you still have questions about the roadworthiness of the car, consider your goals. Even if you don’t intend to drive it, a thorough inspection and proper storage are wise. If you crave a well-preserved example of a car you’ve been dying to own, and drive, since your childhood—you and your budget will be better served by a car that is actively driven. 

After Buying

Following Cotter’s example and hiring a marque expert to inspect a car is particularly wise, especially if you’re far from an expert in that model yourself. In some very specific cases—an original car with a very special history, perhaps tied to a person—preserving the character of that may be the top priority for a buyer. In such cases, a private conservation firm is an excellent resource. 

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Steering assist knob, an extremely rare piece on the Cord 812. This example belonged to Amelia Earhart.Eric Weiner

If a buyer does know a model well and wants to return the car to running and driving condition, the list of necessary checks may be long. The worst thing you can do is rush to start the car before doing a proper diagnosis: If the cylinders are dry or maybe have rusted slightly from condensation, Cotter warns, “you could put probably a decade’s worth of wear on that engine in an hour. Because you’re dragging a dry piston ring on a dry cylinder wall.” Go through every system, methodically, observing everything.

If it sounds like a lot of work to keep a car in top shape over tens of years, it is. Respect for the complexity of the machine is paramount, no matter what the storage or maintenance protocol may be, and no matter the odometer reading or the value of the car. As George says, “The mindset that we’re taking is that we’re in this for the long term, not the short term, and we’re stewards of these cars, and we want to see ’em active in the world for as long as we can.” Respect for the second law of thermodynamics is also critical: We can’t freeze cars in time, and we can only do so much to reverse the effects of time without replacing original parts.

Are low-mile cars worth the hype? That’s a personal call. For buyers and sellers, the more discerning question may be whether they are worth the trouble.

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The interior of the 130-mile S2000 CR sold by Bring a Trailer.Bring a Trailer
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Comments

    I generally will look for a lower mileage but not a no mile car.

    First they are cheaper and I will drive it killing the value of no mile.

    I have worked and owned cars that sit. Budget for things to go wrong.

    As for personal storage. I’m in the mid west. I have a separate building for my shop. I have heat and I install fans that circulate the air and remove the humidity. The main intent for these is to remove moisture in heated floor garages in Canada. But they keep humidity in check at set levels for less than $400.

    If you buy a no mile or long term storage look for care records and if there are none then budget for possible work.

    Note too. You can test the anti freeze, brake and clutch fluid to get the true condition before you buy. Strips sre cheap insurance to measure condition.

    You really need to drive the car. Running it in the garage may get the coolant up to temp, but the oil is probably still on the cold end. Transmissions and rears don’t have a chance

    I realize people collect for all different reasons, but the idea of having a car sit for decades accruing little to no miles seems like a terrible waste, especially when you see well spec’d out sports cars subjected to this treatment

    Does a 63 Corvette convertible that the previous owner restored in 1997, drove it for 88 miles then parked it in his basement for the next 26 years, count as a barn find? And yes, I replaced most of the fuel system (gas tank looked brand new) and all of the braking system, and a few other odds and ends. Other than that, ran pretty good. Put 1,000 miles on the first summer.

    I love my Car Capsule “outdoor showcase”, I am a working man with no money for a nice garage, and my old Boxster sleeps inside it when I’m not driving her. Living on the Gulf Coast, it keeps the humidity down and alligators out.

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