Piston Slap: Putting the Brakes on Auto Start/Stop?

DENSO's Tandem Solenoid (TS) Stop-Start starter. Denso

Hagerty Community member HelenC writes:

Sajeev, my question is how do you disable the stop/start feature on a Jeep Grand Cherokee? It would be a tremendous service to your readers if you explained how to do it on not only Jeep products but GM and Ford.

I know the car companies have not come up with such an iterative feature since they put those seat belt starter interlocks on cars back in 1974. However it was easy to disable by just cutting all the wires under the seat. This aggravation may be more complicated to find which wires to cut so all your help would be appreciated.

Sajeev answers:

Turns out I got this one wrong, as there are modules that defeat this system. But remember these can void your vehicle’s warranty, so let the buyer beware.

Before I reply, please permit me to weasel out of a proper answer. Because getting a representative vehicle from all manufacturers, performing the task (either manually or electronically) to verify for myself, and then subsequently getting banned from all media fleets would kinda tank (what’s left of) my career as an automotive journalist. I’m only kinda joking, as doing this on not-media fleet vehicles would also be too cost prohibitive. And with that out of the way…

Let me instead point you in the right direction to disable auto start/stop in your vehicle. And this “pointing” is more valuable over time, as vehicle systems change over time, but the people who work on them generally do not.

  • Call or email ECU tuners (Ford, GM, Chrysler) to see if they can remove auto start/stop from their software. This is often possible, but only they will know as they have access to the software and the ability to do what you want.
  • Ask a dealership’s service department if start/stop can be removed either with their software, or unplugging/bypassing a wiring harness. (I assume the answer will be no, but it never hurts to ask.)
  • Find out who makes the start/stop starter unit in your application. (Denso is a well known brand in this space.) Once you know the brand you can see what inputs it takes from the rest of the car to operate. Maybe you can disable start/stop without destroying the rest of the starter.

My advice tries to cover all bases, but honestly, you only need the first option. An ECU tuner will know more than anyone else, as modern cars use multiplex wiring that ensures any physical modification will take out more things than just the start/stop feature.

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I suspect a tuner can make the system default to “off” so you can hit the button and turn it on if you tire of getting 0 MPG in traffic. Problem is, the tuner’s work isn’t free. It will cost hundreds of dollars, but it’s worth it if you also load a tune that allows for more power (premium fuel sometimes required), eliminate the throttle/torque management software, and firm up the transmission shifts.

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Almost all of my EFI-powered vehicles have been tuned by a professional in the aftermarket, and I recommend it for more reasons than just disabling a start/stop feature. But that should get you exactly what you need, no matter what make or model we are discussing.

(For the record, I have no problem with this feature in late model vehicles. Times have changed, its operation is relatively seamless, and eliminating periods of 0 MPG when stuck in suburban sprawl has financial and ecological merit.)

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Comments

    You all seem to overlook the best solution. Refuse to buy a vehicle with this imbecilic feature.
    Starve the beast until some rationality and affordability returns to automotive production.

    Regarding your article related to the start stop feature of most cars now when you idol, don’t you think that if this switch that bypasses this feature is an on off switch you could put a jumper wire from another circuit in the consul that is powered when the car is started to one of the terminals on that switch, which would automatically power that switch to the desired position without having to touch the button

    There are many commercial products easily available on the market for auto start/stop disablement. You can do a simple google search. I bought one for my wife’s Pacifica Minivan. I also bought one for a Genesis GV70. These are $100 devices that are often plug and play or not much more difficult than that. Super simple.

    There are also work around on some vehicles. Moving the gear selector into Sport for example. Again, these are vehicle specific and you can easily find this stuff on Google search or in various auto forums.

    Use your keyboard.

    Since I had many years in the car service industry and also having experience working the service drive face to face with vehicle owners. We were asked about disabling the start stop constantly. You are correct in that it could “ void the warranty” by modifying an emission control of the vehicle. As an authorized dealer we couldn’t nor would we even attempt to disable the Eco start stop. The system helps improve fuel efficiency and reduces emissions. To me as a professional service manager the greatest benefit of the start stop system was it significantly decreased the number of customer complaints about “engine rough idle”. It was like a gift from heaven. The system almost totally eliminated one of the most common issues that consumers complained about. It also improved the vehicle performance in the minds of the driving public subliminally.

    Auto stop is a worthless feature cooked up by manufacturers to look like a benefit, but it is clearly not !
    this does nothing for mileage and causes unnecessary wear on starters causing early replacement when
    the starter fails out of warranty, there is NO benefit to Auto Stop ultimately resulting in premature starter replacements

    My wife’s 2020 Lincoln came with the start/stop feature. If you go into the features menu on the screen you can disable it. It comes back on with the following cycle, however, after a few cycles it stays off. It’s been off now for 4 years.

    2019 Chevy Equinox, 6 speed auto trans, put the gear shift all in L then push the button on top of the gear shift 6 times and it doesn’t do the start stop thing.

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