According to You: Long-Lost Automotive Trends You Miss
Everyone here at Hagerty Media is thrilled to see how you, readers, take our questions and run with them. Last week’s question—what automotive trends do you miss?—was answered with a nice array of elements from our automotive past. We know there are long-lost trends that we thought would never die off, and stepping back to see how life has changed because of them can be revealing.
We may never know why a trend must die, but these automotive trends are at least not forgotten. So let’s see what everyone came up with.
Luxury Does Not Equal Technology
@TingeofGinge: Luxury, implying high-build quality and not just electric or “smart” toys in your car.
CB Radios
The Hagerty Community really ran with my suggestion of the Citizens Band radio:
@70AMXguy: Bought a pristine ’82 AMC Eagle with factory CB/trailer pack from a retired couple. Saved me countless hours on HWY 401 in Toronto. Learned a few “choice” words from the trucker guys in English AND French … good days.
@DUB6: I started driving semi-trucks in the late ’60s and really put on the miles in the ’70s, right when the CB phase was at its peak (along with cowboy boots) in trucking. And sure, when we piled into the family car to make a trip in those days, the CB came out of the rig and went right along with us. Each of my kids got handles and each took turns calling out to find out where the Smokeys were up ahead. Great fun.
In my trucking life, the CB was as important as having an empty bottle on board (TMI?), and it saved me more than once. I suppose that most of the truckers today are just using their cell phones for a lot of what we relied on our CBs to do. Auto drivers, too. But honestly, I would still consider digging out the ol’ Cobra 29 and sparking it up if I were driving across the country again!
@Dan: Ten years ago I bought a used truck that had a CB in it. I made a cross-country trip in it and the CB came in very handy. The interstate was shut down from a bad accident one night and a trucker who happened to be a local guy came on his CB and said, “I know a way around this if anybody wants to follow me.” A bunch of us did and it probably saved us a two- or three-hour wait. I didn’t have a handle but I was towing my 1966 Charger on a trailer and they just named me Charger Guy. It stuck all the way across the USA from San Fran to Cincinnati. 🙂
Turn Signals
@WRLotus: To be only mildly sarcastic, one trend that I would like to see come back is turn signals.
@Sajeev Mehta: You bring up a good point, because Tesla deleted the turn-signal stalk from its mass-market Model 3 sedan. I actually didn’t mind the buttons on a short test drive at city speeds, but the arrangement feels odd and I would hit the wrong button if I was concentrating on something else on the freeway.
Vent/Wing/Smoker’s Windows
@JohnG: The door vent windows and floor foot vents like in my parentss 1977 Chevy C-10 truck. Pull them open at 55 mph and all the dirt on the floor flies all over and in your eyes.
@DUB6: Wing windows, baby! Open that door vent window at speed, and you better be prepared or there goes the paper map on the dash, along with any drive-thru napkins you put there, and maybe even that pair of “cheap sunglasses” (nod to ZZ Top here)—whoosh. Been there—done that!
@NovaResource: I’m sure the loss of vent windows has to do with aerodynamics but I agree with you. I’d love to see them make a comeback.
@Sajeev Mehta: I heard the loss of vent windows was due to the proliferation of air conditioning in every car. Kinda makes sense, as they started disappearing around the time everything could be ordered with A/C . Also, don’t door-swap your project car to reinstate vent windows: That was absolutely not worth the effort. Or maybe it was, and I just can’t enjoy the benefit yet.
Analog Vehicles
@TG: Completely analog vehicles. Even though I swore I wouldn’t, I just went up to #6 … a 1972 Ford F-350. This thing is as analog as it gets, without a microchip or transistor to be found with the exception of the aftermarket radio. It performs all the same basic functions as a modern truck, and the only 1s ands 0s going on might be the turn signal flasher
@Tom: TG, your turn signal relay is a bimetallic strip–type deal. Purely thermal/mechanical! (Zing! —SM)
@TJRL: Real buttons, analog gauges, and radios separate from sat-nav screens! My passengers used to be able to set the radio or sat-nav whilst I reversed out of the driveway. Now we only get a single “infotainment” interface, so the reversing camera stops anything else being done. Worst, if a passenger changes the radio station the sat-nav screen I was using disappears!
@Trekker: I miss the simplicity of older cars before the advent of everything “computerized.” Their mechanical feel, sounds, and smells, analog gauges, engine bays where you could actually see the engine and work on it without a digital reader or sensors, unique designs that clearly separated makes from each other, and simple things like vent windows and roll-down windows that don’t require a motor and switch that ultimately goes bad, and costs hundreds/thousands to replace/repair. Finally, I miss having the tactile feel of actual switches/knobs for A/C, temp, fan, radio, etc. Touchscreens are a distraction that requires the driver to take his eyes off the road to find the right “spot” on the screen.
@Ryknot: Analog gauges. Am I the only guy out there who has no interest in driving a computer? I detest the gauges of today; of course I can’t afford to drive one anyway, but still.
The Devaluation of Child Safety?
@Chris: Yes, I know safety is a factor in the change, but where I live kids these days are not supposed to sit in front seats until they are 13. Some of my fondest childhood memories in the ’70s were sitting “shotgun” while driving with my dad. Just side-by-side chatting, operating the radio or eight-track (!), or rooting around in the glove compartment. I felt like less of a passenger than a “co-pilot.” Not recommended, but I even recall being really small and sitting on the armrest between Mom and Dad during road trips in our big Chrysler Newport!
@NovaResource: It’s surprising that I’m alive. I was brought home from the hospital as a newborn in the front seat on my mother’s lap in a 1966 GTO. No car seat or seat belt.
Maybe you might think I was a bad parent but I let my kids sit in the front seat when they were under 13. I just made sure they had on a seatbelt and the seat was as far back as it could go to keep them far away from the airbag if it ever did deploy. I find adults sitting so close to the steering wheel are far more at danger from an airbag than children far from it.
@TG: My aunt used to sit me in her lap and let me steer.
Actual Colors
@Steve: Colors. Try to buy any new vehicle that isn’t blue, silver, red, black, or white. Yes, exceptions are out there but for the most part the new-vehicle color palette is very monochrome.
@DUB6: When I was driving long-haul for a big company, they at first had a really distinctive paint job, using the company colors. I used to get hailed on the CB by company name from great distances as other truckers and even regular car drivers knew our “colors.” Then, the manufacturers started making all-white trucks significantly cheaper, so we converted—and blended into the traffic so no one knew who we were. Lots of free advertising out the window, IMO. I still have pictures of some of those “company colors” trucks, but I don’t know of anyone who took or saved a photo of one of those plain white ones.
Bench Seating
@William: I miss bench seats for front-seat passengers. With those, you had more legroom up front—especially since you didn’t have a console taking up space between the two seats. The car felt more spacious, and, most importantly, you could get in on the passenger side and slide across to the driver’s seat if you needed to.
@Dennis: Bench seats, so my dog can sit next to me instead of the shift handle, which on my EV could be a toggle switch.
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Control knobs and levers, use to just reach and automatically knew how to regulate heat/cooling, change radio stations without taking your eyes off driving. Also beautiful colorful interiors. Bumpers are a no brainer.
Small cars. Small cars that are actually small. Small cars that fit big people. Modern Mini Coopers looks like SUVs next to my Triumph.
All of these comments make me feel very fortunate to have aquired my favorite vehicle from the 60’s, that being a 66 El Camino. It has the foot switch for high beams, wind wing vent windows, a kick panel vent, hand crank windows, a bench seat, lap belts, a metal dash board, and real personality.
Bench seats and Drive-in movies is something I really miss. They went together like a cheap pizza and a soda fountain between the double-feature break. Made it feel more like a couch and popcorn at home, especially when you have your partner in crime with you.
Return of the Bench Seat will bring down the divorce ration and closer family relationship, like good old family road trip.
How about an air-conditioning delete option on those who live at northern latitudes? What about single-color enamel paint that can withstand decades of sun without frying like base-coat/clear-coat paint does in the southwest? And those old glass headlight lenses didn’t fog from sunlight. Ever.
Sorry but that’s a BS excuse.
Which do you do more … use your hi-beams or turn signals? Because the hi-beam switch is usually the same stalk as the turn signal. So if you have to “constantly raise your arm” to use the hi-beams, do you not have to “constantly raise your arm” to use your turn signals? Or are you “THAT GUY” that doesn’t use your turn signals?
Crotch cooler air conditioning vents! Why did they do away with those?
Only the car manufacturers want these roofs. They bundle them into an option package with other features you do want – power seats for example – and since they no longer allow the customer to pick options feature by feature – you have no choice but to overpay for a useless feature you do not want and simply robs you of 3 inches of head room, weakens the roof rigidity, and when it fails costs a fortune to repair. For them it is simply an easy cash grab and robs you of a few thousand you otherwise would not have spent. Unfortunately, this practice reduces the car choice options for tall people since headroom is a major concern.
* Hi beam switch on the floor
* Real keys and locks
* Mechanical Parking Brake operation
* Cornering lights
* Heated outside mirrors
* Real knobs and slides for HVAC
* ManualHVAC temp
* Switches that operate devices insted of opeating a computer
* DRL’s that can be turned off
* Smaller w/s wiper that poark over the defroster vents
* Metal bolts for oil drain plugs
* Spin-on oil filters (I thought replaceable oil filter cartridges were obsolete in the 60″s)
* Exhaust tone coming from the tail-pipes, not synthesized tone from the radio speakers
* Lights that don’t flash and horns that don’t honk when you hit your key fob
* Back-up lights that don’t come on when you lock your car
* AND last, but not least Real contols, not an oversized distracting computer screen
Maybe I should qit now
I miss a TRUE Odometer.
The ones that the real numbers rolled around.
A time where the driver, the passenger, and of ofcourse the kid in all of us waited for the 96999.9 to clunkily roll to 97000.0 and slow the car down to watch it happen!
These dang computer digital crud have no tactile feeling.
Give me back my Grandpas 1977 Ford truck with a big block that actually go just as good or better mileage than my newer computer truck……sad
Interior choices besides black and sometimes grey. We want plaids, cloths, hound’s-tooth and more color choices. Especially light colors that don’t get so hot. Porsche charges lots extra for this and makes the car on the used market more valuable. Detroit, get in front of this trend.
HUBCAPS!
Sidewalls! The tire was part of the suspension at one time
The vent window sucking napkins out reminded me of a childhood memory. I was maybe four years old and our family was going somewhere in our 71 no a/c Maverick. It was a warm day so all the windows were wide open. We kept a box of Kleenex in the back window and when we got on the highway the wind started sucking kleenex out the window at a rate of about one per second. My sister and I thought this was awesome and just watched it happen. Then mom turned around to say something to us and saw this. She was not nearly as amused…
FINS and CHROME