Piston Slap: Can We Even Call It Wax Anymore?

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Hagerty Community Member DUB6 writes:

Sajeev, since it’s nearing the time of year that I traditionally apply a coat of “paste wax” to my classic, cover it and put it away for a winter nap, I wonder if you (and the Community) would help me understand what types of protection there is out in today’s world, and the pros and cons of each? 

For instance, carnuba used to be a big buzzword, but these days I see ceramic a lot, so obviously things have progressed in that world.  Are the wash/wax combination products viable, or just a scam? 

Not really looking for specific brand name recommendations, but I realize that a lot of “car wax” isn’t even made of wax!  What’s the scoop, sir?

Sajeev answers:

This is a fantastic question, so sit down and enjoy the ride. The question about car wash/wax products is easy to answer: This combo works for vehicles that need basic care by owners with only a few minutes of spare time. But they generally have a low amount of protective “wax” in them, low enough for me to deem them unworthy of specialty vehicles owned by the Hagerty Community. Especially for DUB6’s delightful Pontiac GTO!

No! Do those two act separately? Pretty please?Meguiar's

I heartily discourage car enthusiasts from using all-in-one car wash products; instead buy separate chemicals, and (generally) enjoy longer lasting shine and protection. Now to the main event: Decoding the sheer volume of wax products in a logical manner.

I had the pleasure interviewing the folks at Turtle Wax over 15 years ago, leading me to believe that waxes were just as marketing driven as potato chips. But times have changed, as we now have Doritos Dinamita Flamin’ Hot Queso chips (yes, really), but only three catch-all classifications for “wax” products. So let’s discuss this trinity of protective paint coatings in greater detail.

Waxing by Mother Nature

Tacarijus, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons

Traditional waxes are typically made out of carnauba wax, a naturally occurring product of the Copernicia prunifera tree. It is sourced (ethically, or perhaps not) from farmers in Brazil. As a finished product, it gives a deep, glossy shine that can even fill in small scratches. Wax lasts for weeks or months, and is quite labor intensive both on application and when buffing off. We’ve been using this stuff for decades and they are tragically antiquated, so let’s move on.

Sealing By Polymer

This isn’t a polymer for your car, but you get the idea.Gmrozz, CC BY-SA 4.0 , via Wikimedia Commons

In stark contrast to carnauba, polymers aren’t waxes. They are a complicated concoction of science stuff (technical term) that creates a chemical sealer. It’s hard to know what’s exactly in these sealers, as most companies treat it as a proprietary blend on par with Coca-Cola’s secret recipe. But whatever they are, the end result is pretty fantastic.

Application and removal of polymer sealer is easy and it lasts for months, possibly even over a year (when indoors, speaking from experience). The shine isn’t quite as deep and glossy as carnauba, especially if the surface isn’t treated to a polish or clay bar beforehand.

Coating By Ceramics

Just kidding… kinda.Splarka, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons

Likely best explained as a “semi-permanent, non-metallic, inorganic protective clear coat” by these folks, ceramic coatings share more in common with the Corningware found in your kitchen than it does with wax from a carnauba tree. And much like those dishes, ceramic coatings are the most durable (lasting years, depending on vehicle storage) and provide a high shine. But they are the most expensive product, and generally lack the depth of gloss found in wax.

Adding to the expense is the need for polishing and paint correction to ensure the deepest and shiniest paint job after application of ceramic coating. Ceramics are harder to apply, in stark contrast to carnauba wax which easily fills in small imperfections and gives a deep glow to a paint job. Finally, ceramic coatings must be washed with the correct soap, and doing otherwise will significantly shorten its lifespan.

Consider The Spray-On Delivery Method?

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The three classifications discussed are most commonly associated with a product you apply by hand and buff off. (Ceramic coatings technically have excess material you wipe away, if you want to split hairs.) But the same technologies are available in a spray wax, which makes things more convenient.

Ceramic spray waxes have a silicone infused (for lack of a better word) formulation that lasts for months, are generally easy to apply, and seem to be the most expensive. Polymer sprays are even easier to apply, last a couple of months, and are cheaper than ceramics. Carnauba sprays usually have the best shine/gloss, are very easy to apply, but only last a couple of weeks.

If you aren’t confused enough yet, consider that Turtle Wax has a hybrid lineup that marries the benefits of polymers and ceramics in a package more affordable than most pure ceramic options. Considering what a big deal hybrid powertrain vehicles are these days, maybe hybrid waxes are the best of all worlds?

Final Thoughts / What I Use

After speaking to the folks at Turtle Wax, it’s clear that carnauba is best for a show car that must pass muster with judges. Everyone else would likely benefit from either mid-priced polymer sealers or higher dollar ceramic coatings. The latter wasn’t popular when I met with Turtle Wax in 2009, but they have proven themselves across multiple industries. I’m just spitballing here, but consider ceramic coatings if you have an off-road vehicle, as it would clean up with a garden hose and very little else. For people in the middle of these use cases, consider polymer sealers.

Back to my recommendation: A paint correction shop near me swore by Duragloss Aquawax 952, and they let me try their stash of this polymer coating. I could not believe how easy it went on and off the car. It even acts like moisturizer to the dry, thin, single-stage paint job on the red Mercury Cougar pictured here, getting significantly glossier after three heavy coats. It works magic on glass and rubber seals, too. My gushing over this product might be indicative of many polymer coatings, but this is the best one I’ve seen for the dollar.

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Speaking of value, I buy this polymer sealer by the gallon (about $55) and pour it into a spray bottle. It’s a great value, presumably because Duragloss spends very little money on advertising or product placement at retailers. I am happy with how long it lasts (3-12 months in my case) and it’s certainly nice to avoid dumping an empty, 16-fluid-ounce plastic bottle into the landfill twice a year.

As always, your mileage may vary. But now you know the three types of, ahem, waxes you have at your disposal. I have a feeling most folks need a polymer sealer, but we shall see what populates in the comments!

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Comments

    I’m a ceramic engineer by education. Like rubbing and polishing compound of years past, that have a grit in it to cut the bad paint off the top, ceramic coatings also are just another way of introducing that grit… Its not a polish, its sandpaper. Ceramics do not ooz. They are not soft. I use polish when I have to on old car paint. All the ceramic products are is another marketing name for polish. If you put dirt in your polish, you could call it ceramic,

    I’ve been detailing my black vehicles for years and I’ve tried many products (my father was a chemical engineer) and I always end up with my old “go tos” – clay bar first, 3Ms Imperial Glaze and 10 Grands Carnuba wax. Yes time consuming but looks fantastic and last for months in the elements. BTW we’re in Minnesota.

    On my collector/special interest vehicles, I use whatever “quality-appearing” product I find on sale whenever I run low. I apply it once a year when I put the cars away for the winter.

    I’m currently using Chemical Guys “Blazin’ Banana Natural Carnauba Spray Wax”. Seems fine, my only potential caveat would be that it does not dry to a haze, so it’s easier to miss spots.

    I think for my purposes, choice of product is probably not as crucial a decision as it might be for other people because my cars are kept in a dry climate-controlled garage year-round and never used in inclement weather, so actually nothing I’ve used seems to have a problem lasting between applications.

    A really really interesting article. I have had to go out into the shed and check out my own eclectic range of “polish”. I’ve been using the spay-on for years, mainly because my elbow have no great in them anymore!

    How about an article, even an expose, on the range of magic potions that can wipe away scratch and dents. I tried a few, just for fun and found them to be totally useless, so how about giving us the low-down on them as well

    Maybe your article had a big impact as it was a bit hard to find. Also, different numbers (951, etc) and lots of OOS on sites. Finally, silly me, I went to the source, Duragloss, and got it for the price you mentioned. Will try it on my ’54 Chevy 3100.

    What about ’90s and ’00s cars without clear coat? I have two, a ’92 Civic and ’03 Tacoma, both appliance white, both parked in Nevada sun. Just the usual chalky oxidation, but will a wax or polymer help extend the life of the paint?

    I’ve detailed many cars for many years and tried many products. Most are high priced marketing gimmicks. They do a good job but not great for the price. IMO the best product out there for polishing is a $10 orange bottle of liquid NuFinish car polish. A polymer formula developed many years ago for NASA space shuttle. It is amazingly easy to apply, a rich deep gloss shine, slippery smooth finish and longest lasting product I’ve ever used. I use it on my show cars as well as daily drivers. Water continues to bead even after a year. Applied to your windshield the water just beads off in the light rain while driving. Shine lasts a year long as well in normal use. Hard to beat it. I’ve recommended it to friends who tried it and they are amazed.

    Can’t believe that a $ 10.00 dollar product can be be the (end all) solution, for this problem!?! With all the ‘Specialty’ stuff out there, I (try to use) Griot’s ceramic wash, and spray, & spray – on ceramic coating but (I am to disabled to really do my SUV anymore.

    IMO Spray ons are a PITA to apply. You need many clean dry towels and much elbow grease to blend, dry and polish them properly without streaks. I find that after you need to mist them with water and re-dry/polish. Too much work.

    The spray stuff I use requires almost no elbow grease. Its the easiest thing I’ve ever used on my cars: no streaks, no misting, no issues even if you leave it on the paint for “too long”.

    DUB6, thank you for starting out about this great topic.

    I live in Northern Ontario where we have various weather “situations” and hectic winters. Our roads crew like to pour on the sand and salt mixtures which we all know can cause quite allot of damage. Basically, during our winters vehicles seldom get washed as if you do you’ll have the cleanest vehicle on the street but, you’ll never get into it until you get a good thaw. Our temps can go as low as -35C (which is -31F).

    It’s hard to pick products but I’ve had success with McGuires Carnauba paste wax and Chemical Guys Better Butter Wax. I have 3 vehicles 2021 Honda CRV, 2003 VW Jetta and 1970 Chevelle SS.

    I do like to pick the forum’s brain about water spots and oxidation. My 2003 VW Jetta (Wolfsburg Edition) has some bad water spotting and some oxidation on the passenger side only. I’ve tried various compounds and polishes without success. But in the various videos on YouTube University shows various methods. But has anyone out there ever have any success? If so please let me know.

    Another item I’d like to ask is when using a DA (duel action polisher) several videos never talk about the speed to which to apply the product or the speed of spreading the product. Can anyone chime in on this item please? A DA polisher sure makes it easier than the old hand method….”wax on wax off”.

    Thank you for allowing me to give my 2 cents worth (that’s like $5 Canadian lol).

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